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« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2010, 01:23:37 PM »

Heavy agenda and long lunch delay HR 2267 vote

Industry observers expecting a vote on the mark-up of Barney Frank's proposal to legalise US online gambling Tuesday (see previous InfoPowa reports) were disappointed to learn that a heavy business agenda and lunch break delays curtailed the House Financial Services Committee deliberations before HR2267 was reached.

However, the bill is first up for debate Wednesday July 28 when the Committee reconvenes.

HR 2267 - the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, and Enforcement Act - is the third of seven bills before the Committee and has been submitted for mark up following a second Congressional hearing last week (see previous InfoPowa report).

Observers expect the mark up debate to centre on precautions against underage and problem gambling and the exclusion of organised crime; states' jealously guarded rights and the manner in which licenses will be handled.

Much of Tuesday's Committee activity was taken up by just two other bills that preceded HR2267 on the agenda, and the slow progress was then reportedly exacerbated by the members of the committee taking a three hour lunch break before returning to complete deliberations on HR 4868 the Housing Preservation and Tenant Protection Act of 2010, which was allowed to progress further.
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« Reply #91 on: July 29, 2010, 12:31:07 AM »

It's amazing how long this thing is getting dragged on.  I'll still be following this news, though.
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« Reply #92 on: July 29, 2010, 02:18:50 AM »

It's amazing how long this thing is getting dragged on.  I'll still be following this news, though.

They are certainly dragging it out. 

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« Reply #93 on: July 29, 2010, 05:26:36 PM »

HOUSE COMMITTEE APPROVE BARNEYS BILL

There's still a long road ahead, but the first hurdle has been cleared

Wednesday's delayed vote on Barney Frank's HR2267 bill seeking to legalise online gambling in the United States proved to be worth the wait, with members of the House Financial Services Committee voting it forward by 41 to 22 in a bipartisan approach. The vote was taken after a number of amendments were accepted.

“My primary goal is Americans ought to be free to do what they wish without this kind of intrusion,” said Frank, referring to the UIGEA which was implemented on June 1 2010 to disrupt financial transactions with online gambling companies. “The intrusive regulation is a problem for the financial institutions," he added.

A separate measure authored by Rep. Jim McDermott that depends on the full House approval of Frank’s plan would impose taxes on online poker and other Internet gambling, bringing the federal government as much as $42 billion over 10 years, according to an independent congressional analysis.

McDermott’s proposal would require Internet gambling operators to pay a 2 percent tax to the federal government on betting deposits and a 6 percent tax to states. The federal treasury also would collect taxes on gaming-company profits, and bettors would pay taxes on winnings.

Opponents of HR2267 included - as usual - Representative Spencer Bachus of Alabama, the top Republican on the Financial Services Committee, who claimed that legalising online gambling would harm society and that Congress has more pressing issues to tackle.

In a rather exaggerated statement that takes little cognisance of extensive measures against underage and problem gambling, Bachus alleged: “With this bill, in one broad stroke, we will allow every child in America to gamble on their home computer or in their dorm room.”

Before passing the bill, the committee insisted on amendments that prohibit operators that have violated U.S. laws from getting licenses (suggested by Rep. Bachus); a statistical record proposal; and one to ensure that online betting on sports such as football isn’t allowed.

The panel also approved amendments to help prevent minors from gambling online and prohibit marketing that targets youth.

Using credit cards to bet will not be allowed, although debit cards are acceptable.

Another addition was a provision that those behind on child support payments will be blocked from regulated online gambling sites by the operators.

At one point the sensitive issue of tribal gambling interests was raised, with Rep. Gary Peters of Michigan suggesting an amendment to exempt state and tribal lotteries from having to be licensed by the Federal government. This was passed on the grounds that these entities are already licensed by individual states.

One California Democrat, Brad Sherman, said: “I have opposed this bill for years, but I am slowly changing. The best reason for this bill is the prospect for revenue.”

HR2267 had already attracted some 69 bi-partisan co-sponsors prior to Wednesday's vote.

John Pappas, executive director of the Poker Players Alliance, a pressure group with over a million US members, said that the bipartisan nature of Wednesday's vote adds momentum to the legislation. The focus now shifts to the legislation to tax the betting, which is before the House Ways and Means Committee, he said.

Pappas noted that in addition to Frank's wider proposal in the House of Representatives, a bill focusing on internet poker had been launched by Senator Robert Menendez in the Senate, and this could be useful should the Senate find Frank's bill too broad to accept. 

Bloombergs business news service reports that the U.S. Internet gambling market is expected to climb to $5.7 billion in 2010 from $5.4 billion last year, according to U.K.-based H2 Gambling Capital. If the U.S. legalises online gambling, the market could grow to $24 billion in five years, according to H2. That excludes most sports betting, which wouldn’t be allowed under Frank's proposals to the House.

The global market now is about $30 billion, H2 estimates.

The passage out of committee of HR 2267 has already excited wide mainstream media coverage, especially the amendment that seeks to prohibit the issue of US licenses to offshore companies that continued to operate in the United States after the passage of the UIGEA in 2006.

Industry observers and analysts point specifically to very large online poker entities like Full Tilt Poker and Pokerstars as possible victims of this clause. Many large groups exited the US market in the wake of UIGEA, and others have negotiated their positions with the US Justice Department.

HR2267 places heavy emphasis on operator measures to prevent underage, problem or criminally influenced gambling, along with assurances that the autonomy of individual states will be respected and internet betting in states that prohibit it will be blocked.

The chairman of the PPA, former Senator Alphonse D'Amato said in a statement after the Frank Bill was approved: “The fact is, online poker is not going away. Congress has a choice – it can license and regulate it to provide government oversight and consumer protections, or our lawmakers can stick their heads in the sand, ignore it, and leave consumers to play on non-U.S. regulated websites in all 50 states.

“I’m glad the Financial Services Committee today overwhelmingly chose to act and protect Americans as well as preserve the fundamental freedoms of adults and the Internet. This is a great day not only for poker players, but for proponents of Internet freedom and individual liberty.

“We thank Chairman Frank for his leadership on this bill, and look forward to working with him to bring this bill through the legislative process.”

Key provisions of HR 2267 include:

* Thorough vetting of potential licensees and the creation of an OFAC-style list of illegal operators;

* Mandatory implementation of technologies to protect against underage gambling using the commercial and government databases used for online banking to verify age and identity

* Requirements for operators to set daily, weekly or monthly limits on deposits and losses to monitor and detect individuals with excessive gaming habits;

* High standards to thwart fraud, abuse and cheating to ensure fair games for customers;

* Regulation to prevent money laundering; and,

* Processes to prevent tax avoidance.
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« Reply #94 on: July 31, 2010, 04:05:05 AM »

Thank you bingocrazy  - I was wondering when someone would "get" how big this last story was.

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« Reply #95 on: July 31, 2010, 06:28:19 AM »

Definately a step forward!!!Thanks for keeping us up to date on all the latest info!!Maybe I'll go in search of my poker chips that I stashed away and invite some friends over to play.I need to refresh my poker skills!!! Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2010, 07:46:31 AM »

Online gambling group has a solution for US market entry

Speaking to journalists in a post-financial results conference Friday, Party Gaming CEO Jim Ryan addressed the question of obstacles to his company's re-entry to the US market, assuming that market is legalised.

The main hurdle - a multi-million dollar settlement with the US Department of Justice over pre-UIGEA activity - has already been overcome but the status of founders and significant shareholders Russ De Leon and Ruth Parasol has been raised in the wake of the merger agreement between Party Gaming and Bwin last week.

The husband and wife team that founded Party Gaming with IT whiz Dikshit Anurag has not followed in Anurag's footsteps in admitting guilt and paying a large fine for alleged US illegal activity.

Ryan pointed out that the company has reached agreement with the duo in the event that their stance presents a problem to the company in regard to re-entering the United States market. He noted that the merger agreement with Bwin had included a provision that if a shareholder presented a problem regarding a licensing application, the company could require that shareholder to liquidate their equity in the company.

“There have always been questions about Party Gaming and our position in this regard," said Ryan. "But we have now closed the loop and I think we are very well positioned."

Ryan went on to sound an optimistic note on the future of the online US gambling market, noting that legislative moves were looking promising, and pointing to the advantages that a legalised market could bring to US tax coffers, land-based gambling groups, the players themselves and online gambling groups that were able to meet the regulatory requirements that will be imposed if the market is legalised.

He noted catalysts for change in the US such as the efforts of Harrah's and GTech, whose pursuit of the possibility of a legalised market has spurred other land entities to explore possible routes to online action and partnerships that could prove useful. He also observed that Party Gaming's acquisition of the World Poker Tour has led to negotiations with a significant number of US land corporates on running WPT events, opening doors for wider discussions on US market opportunities.
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« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2010, 01:42:12 PM »

Nevada reps support HR2267

But which way will Harry Reid jump?

The Reno Gazette-Journal commented over the weekend on federal attempts to legalise online gambling in the United States, noting that three Nevada representatives in the House of Assembly support Congressman Barney Frank's HR2267...but that the support of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will be critical.

That support may not be immediately forthcoming; the crafty leader of the Democrat majority has thus far not committed himself either for or against the proposal.

Describing his involvement as pivotal, Democrat and Nevada Representative Shelley Berkley told the newspaper: "He will be the decider when it comes to Internet gaming."

Frank's HR2267 passed out of the House Financial Services Committee last week on a 41 - 22 vote of approval and has 70 co-sponsors in the House - the strongest showing yet in attempts to legalise the pastime in America.

Independent assessments have shown that a legalised online industry could be safer for American players, create employment opportunities and generate $42 billion in tax revenues over the next decade.

The Reno Gazette-Journal notes that most Nevada land casino operators have historically opposed online gambling as a possible competitive threat to their businesses, although in recent years the American Gaming Association has adopted a neutral position. However, the newspaper points out, HR2267 may clear a path for Nevada gambling companies to profit from digital gaming because they did not violate attempts to kill off internet gambling through the 2006 UIGEA, which bans financial transactions with online gambling companies.

Major potential competitors already occupying the online space that have persisted in offering internet gambling to Americans since 2006 may be precluded from obtaining US licenses if HR2267 is successful, the publication notes.

One example of a US company that could benefit is Harrah's Entertainment, whose interactive division owns the World Series of Poker, already has online ventures operating elsewhere, and backs the bill.

Congressman Reid voted for the UIGEA in 2006, but Berkley opined he may vote for legalisation.

"I think his position has softened dramatically, but he's going to need to be convinced," she said. "I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I know he's been moving to a positive position."

Berkley and fellow Democrat Representative Dina Titus are both among the co-sponsors of the Frank bill.

Republican Nevada Representative Dean Heller appears in favour of a legalised industry, writing in a statement last week: "Current law banning Internet gaming is unworkable and needs to be addressed. However, a lot of questions remain on how to appropriately legalise Internet gaming. The passage of this bill is a positive first step in moving the debate forward, but more work needs to be done to fully resolve this issue."

Dennis Neilander, chairman of the Nevada Gaming Control Board said that Nevada laws are already in place to regulate online gaming, and noted that if the federal government gives states the green light, the board will have to ensure online casinos can effectively exclude minors.

"We would have to see from a technology point of view that it could be done in such a way that would prevent minors from taking part and that you would have to be able to block people from wagering from jurisdictions that make it illegal," he said.

Another question is how to tax and regulate online gaming. Nevada lawmakers and gaming officials are adamant about keeping the oversight and taxation of gaming under the supervision of individual states.

"Gaming has always been something the states can decide if they want at all, and if they want it, how much they will tax it," Neilander said. He added that the nature of the Internet means Congress will need to be involved in some limited way.

"This is sort of a unique animal," Neilander said. "The Internet is such a mechanism for interstate commerce that I'm sure there will have to be some federal regulation."
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« Reply #98 on: August 09, 2010, 03:56:11 PM »

Ok so in a nutshell..when can we basically start signing up for new microgaming accounts lol?

Really though..when or when is it predicted?
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« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2010, 04:27:46 PM »

Fingers,toes and every other body part I can cross are crossed. Grin Damn now I got a charliehorse!!!  Shocked Grin Thanks blue for keeping us informed! Kiss
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« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2010, 04:32:11 PM »

Ok so in a nutshell..when can we basically start signing up for new microgaming accounts lol?

Really though..when or when is it predicted?

I think it's going to take a while yet Allgood.  There is a lot of regulations to be put in place but I'm sure all casinos will jump as soon as they can.

Fingers,toes and every other body part I can cross are crossed. Grin Damn now I got a charliehorse!!!  Shocked Grin Thanks blue for keeping us informed! Kiss

Definitely got everything crossed for you guys - it will be fantastic that is for sure.

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« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2010, 06:26:42 PM »

Can not wait to try out Playtech sites...

Never played at any of their games which all look fun!!!

Thanks Blue for updating the news!!! Cheesy
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« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2010, 06:42:48 PM »

Can not wait to try out Playtech sites...

Never played at any of their games which all look fun!!!

Thanks Blue for updating the news!!! Cheesy

I'm so looking forward to you [all] being able to play every casino and bingo site and of course....poker if you should be so inclined lol.

It'll be a wonderful day Nan.

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« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2010, 05:46:46 AM »

UIGEA better get repealed (or else I might just move to Canada!).

Join the PPA, write to Congress, donate time or money--anything you can do to stop the government from taking your rights away!


I want to join in PPA

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« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2010, 06:32:24 AM »

More speculation on which way the influential Nevada politician, Harry Reid, will jump

The Reno Gazette created a ripple of headlines across the media this week with an article on the internet gambling position of influential Nevada politician and US Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The article quoted a number of land gambling executives perturbed at what they see as a move toward legalised internet poker by the veteran Senator, something which most of them appeared to fear as an unwelcome competitive element.

Unnamed executives in northern Nevada told the Gazette that at a meeting at the Atlantis Casino Resort Spa on August 16 this year Reid told them he would support the legalisation of online poker in the United States but drew the line there - he would not support any other form of online gaming.

However, even such a restricted legalisation worries land operators from the competitive aspect, and because they believe that such a move would be the thin end of the wedge. The successful passage of Barney Frank’s HR2267 through committee this year, with its amendments de-fanging much of the opposition, has been noted.

The Gazette observes that as Senate majority leader, Reid holds the key to passage of any Internet gaming bill, an opinion shared by Frank Fahrenkopf, the president and CEO of the American Gaming Association.

However, Reid would not support anything that hurt Nevada jobs, his Nevada press secretary told the Gazette this week.

Speculation on where Reid stands has been ongoing for much of this year. In February the news that he had supported a delay in the implementation of the UIGEA appeared to be a positive sign of his growing support for legalised and taxed online gambling in the USA.

In May the rumours of Reid support surfaced again, with a UK business analyst suggesting that Reid would introduce an online poker bill of his own within the next three months. At the time a spokesman for the Senator downplayed the rumour as “greatly exaggerated”, although he did acknowledge that Reid’s staff was looking into the issue in detail.

Later, another Reid spokesman issued a statement to CardPlayer magazine in which he reprised the “greatly exaggerated” line and attributed the speculation to the fact that the Senator’s staff were “trying to get a thorough understanding of every facet of the issue, including the potential effect on Nevada.”

Later still, Chris Moyer, the deputy Nevada press secretary for Sen. Reid, said that online poker regulation was “not high on the priority list.”

Many of the land operators to whom the Reno Gazette spoke are clearly afraid and opposed to the advent of online poker or, worst still, online casino activity in the United States, but where is the Frank legislative initiative realistically headed?

Congress is winding down and the mid term elections have had a distracting effect. Republican Representative for Carson City, Dean Heller, told the Gazette: “We only have two or three weeks and if I were a betting man today, I don’t think that this thing will get a House vote (this session),”

“I could be wrong. But I don’t know if there is enough appetite right now to get that down to the House floor.”

Not all Nevada land operators are against online gambling legalisation. Jan Jones, a senior vice president at Harrah’s Entertainment said that the company is developing strategies to monetise the legalisation of Internet gaming.

Jones told the Gazette that online poker would grow, not shrink, the market for Nevada gaming.

"If you look at the businesses that are surviving today, they approach their customers in three ways,” said Jones, the former mayor of Las Vegas. “One is brick and mortar. One is direct marketing sales, and the other is the Internet.

“The businesses that have not done that have gone out of business. Look at record stores. Look at newspapers.

“In the gaming industry, we need to realise, where are the X-Y generation customers? They are all on the Internet. That is where they play. That is where they congregate, and if we don’t leverage the Internet, then we run the risk of becoming an old person’s entertainment.”
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