What would you do? Poker hand of the Week.

[blueday]

Well it's been a long time since a hand was posted in here.

This is a 99c 4k gtd tourney with R & A up to 2nd break.

See the attached pic and bear in mind that this is a rebuy and addon tournament so play is pretty fishy.

What would you do?

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[timwilcob]

always when there is possibility of a royal i have to atleast raise the blind level..

[Rosebud]

I'd go for it since if you lose the hand it will only cost the 99c to rebuy.

I agree with you about the fish thing too...bunch of guppies!!

[tweet21]

fold

[blueday]

Thank you everyone (so far) for your replies.  I'll post what I did tomorrow.

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[medtrans]

fold

[kattboots]

I'd play it, all in to try to get the other players out of it. I think all-in dude is trying to take the antes... can't wait to find out how it turned out blue!


katt

[blueday]

The result of the "what would you do" hand is that I folded.

I didn't think the hand was strong enough and I actually made the right decision.  See the picture attached.

Thanks for all your replies everyone.

If you have a hand that you would like to post in this thread, please feel free. 

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[Mission146]

I guess it's a little late to give my opinion now, but I will anyway.  

If I had less than $4,000, I'd call it and re-buy for the $0.99 if my hand was unsuccessful.  

In your case, I would have also folded.  You have nearly $4,500, so you've basically already increased your starting chip stack by 12.5%, I would be hesitant to throw that away with four people who COULD call after me as well as the original all-in.  

If I had the same hand in Sepp514's position, and everyone folded around the table, I'd probably go ahead and call that.

In a poker game w/o a $0.99 re-buy, there is no way I would ever call that.  I would start out behind in the hand to absolutely any Ace or Pair wired up.  In fact, you would be a 54/46 dog to A-7, off-suit, and you'd have to assume that anyone calling after you would have better than that.

Good laydown.  


EDIT:  I also forgot to mention that even if you went all-in, nobody else called, and you lost, you would not be able to re-buy immediately as you would still have cash left that you would have to play through.  That is time that you really can't afford to lose when you are trying to build a stack for the later rounds of a tournament.  Oddly enough, if I was to go all-in on such a hand, assuming the re-buy is there, I would ONLY do it if a loss would bust me.

[blueday]

Good point in your PS.  If my stack was just 1x or 2x the starting stack, I likely would have called as I could have done a double rebuy and be in the same position.

The thing about this tourney was the 3 x $10,000 add-ons available during the break.  This was a new style tournament at 888Poker and whilst I liked the fact that you could add $30,000 to your stack during the break, it did seem pretty pointless and just a way to get players to spend more money.  That said, this was a $4k guaranteed tourney limited to 900 players and the payouts were pretty nice for such a small buyin.

I did buy those 3 x addons but failed to make it into the cash.

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[Mission146]

Those are tremendous payouts relative to the size of the buy-in.  However, I agree with your position that the 30K during the break was just to get the players to spend more money.  You woduln't put yourself at a disadvantage by not doing so. 

I would say that those 3x add-ons, assuming 75% of the players got them, accounted for $2,025, then you have your original $900 for the buy-in and all of your re-buys.  That's definitely an excellent guaranteed tourney, I would imagine the casino didn't bring in a lot more than that.

I'm sorry you didn't finish in the cash.  If it makes you feel better, I've played in about twenty live tournaments (zero on-line) and only cashed twice.  The first of the two was basically just getting back what I put in...after two re-buys.  I did well the second time, about 40x my entry.

[blueday]

40x your entry - that's a bit of a result.  Congrats on that.

I did play a live tourney at a casino and I have to say the players were horrible. They made some really nasty comments about me (I was one of the few women that entered) and despite trying to let it go over my head, it did get to me.  This was an R & A tourney too with a buyin of £55.  They had all re-bought 2 or 3 times before I was knocked out at the table I was at.  The good news was that my son managed to place 7th and he won £350.  He went out on pocket 10s against an ace rag player who got lucky with his ace.

I do prefer online play but I don't like some of the RNG's.

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[Mission146]

Thank you for the compliment.  I actually placed in second in that tournament, but I was about a 15:1 dog going heads-up, so I had virtually no chance of winning.  In fact, I was the short stack going into the final table, so I simply played it really close to the vest just hoping to get into...maybe the top five...before the blinds ate my stack.

I only went all-in twice during the final table, one of the times being the last hand, of course.  The other time I got dealt Pocket Rockets out of the big blind and the table folded around to the Small Blind who went all-in to try to steal my blind with 10-6, off-suit, or something like that.  Good move by him, in my opinion, just awful timing...he couldn't have known.  That didn't knock him out, either, as he had three times my stack at the time.

I'm sorry to hear about the disparaging comments that were directed towards you at the table.  I can certainly appreciate that there's a good deal of Psychology involved with live poker, but I try to play with some class, dignity and decorum, and there is a certain line where even Psychological Warfare becomes inappropriate and demeaning.  It sounds like that line was crossed, but unfortunately, that tends to be the nature of that particular beast.

I think that's why Howard Lederer is my favorite Pro Poker Player.  All class, all the time, and he's a mathematical genius. 

[blueday]

You did very well then being the short stack going into the final table.

On reflection, I should have followed my son's example.  Every hand he played, he just stared at the middle of the table; he didn't break that poker face of his and he gave nothing away.  He ignored the comments and questions and just stared.  It was amazing to watch.

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[Mission146]

You did very well then being the short stack going into the final table.

On reflection, I should have followed my son's example.  Every hand he played, he just stared at the middle of the table; he didn't break that poker face of his and he gave nothing away.  He ignored the comments and questions and just stared.  It was amazing to watch.

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Thank you for the compliment, again!  

That's one of two ways to do it, the way your son did.  I have a tendency to reveal to muh when I try to play stoic, so I'm intentionally as fidgety as possible.  I change my position in my chair, the way I hold/check my cards, the ways I turn my head, sometimes I blink rapidly and others I try not blink at all, switch up the way I put my chips in, announce the bet or don't announce it verbally in a strict three-three pattern, that sort of thing..  I basically just hope that my behaviour is erratic enough as to be rendered meaningless if someone is trying to pick up a tell.

Your son does sound amazing, though, that's the better of the two ways to do it.  The only reason why I don't is because I can't.